"In small caps, to like invest in one company, you have to do research on five companies. It's one of the most research-intensive categories... there have been many instances where we would have studied a company for four, five years without buying it." - Samir Rachh [00:18:29](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82C7jmcSnuM&t=18m29s)
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"I always see the small cap fund managers, you know, they are not choosers, they are beggars. You have to really wait patiently; you never know when market gives opportunity." - Samir Rachh [00:20:14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82C7jmcSnuM&t=20m14s)
"Invest only that much portion with which you can see 50% fall in NAV without you losing sleep over it, because anything goes wrong in the world, small cap will be the first place to get affected." - Samir Rachh [00:45:02](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82C7jmcSnuM&t=45m02s)
"You have to identify your mistakes early and cut them off because the amount of time which a mistake takes, it takes away your focus from other five ideas which could have generated much more alpha." - Samir Rachh [00:30:28](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82C7jmcSnuM&t=30m28s)
2. Executive Summary
This episode features Samir Rachh, Fund Manager for Equity Investments at Nippon India Mutual Fund, detailing his three-decade evolution from a young market enthusiast to managing India's largest small-cap mutual fund.
Rachh demystifies the specialized mechanics of small-cap investing, emphasizing that rigorous bottom-up research, extreme patience, and portfolio diversification are paramount to surviving the inevitable 50% drawdowns intrinsic to the space.
Ultimately, the discussion serves as a masterclass on investor psychology, the strategic utility of bear markets, and the discipline required to hold multi-bagger stocks across multiple market cycles.
Small-Cap Buying Requires Years of Patience: Due to low liquidity, fund managers cannot immediately buy a stock just because they like the fundamentals. You must study companies for years and execute aggressively when external panics (like Demonetization or COVID) create sudden supply.
Diversification Protects Long-Term Conviction: A multi-bagger stock that goes up 50x will inevitably suffer multiple 50% drawdowns along the way. A highly concentrated position forces you to panic-sell during these dips, whereas a diversified 1.5% position allows you to absorb the volatility and hold the winner long-term.
Bear Markets Are the True Alpha Generators: Bull markets breed overvaluation and mistakes. Bear markets allow disciplined investors to buy inherently valuable businesses at deep discounts (e.g., buying a 100-rupee asset for 20-60 rupees), planting the seeds for future outperformance.
The "Unlisted" Channel Check: Because modern promoters are highly media-trained and know exactly what fund managers want to hear, true ground-level data must be sourced from unlisted competitors, suppliers, and employees who have no vested interest in the public stock price.
Define Your Risk Capacity Strictly: Retail investors should never allocate more than 15-18% of their portfolio to small caps, and specifically, should only invest money they are perfectly comfortable watching drop by 50% in NAV without losing sleep.
Cut Mistakes Ruthlessly: While conviction is important, realizing you made a type-two error requires swift action. Holding onto a fundamentally broken thesis drains mental bandwidth away from the other ideas in your portfolio that could be generating positive alpha.
Samir Rachh's fascination with the stock market began in the 12th standard, inspired by an economics professor and a broker uncle who introduced him to Nariman Point. He began his formal career at Capital Market magazine, which served as his foundational "college." In the early 1990s, the market was highly unregulated and deeply volatile, marked by the Harshad Mehta and Ketan Parekh scams. Rachh notes that during this era, the concept of "long-term investing" did not exist; traders believed you had to book profits immediately or lose them. Learning to separate cyclical, commodity-driven trading businesses from long-term secular compounders was his first major trial by fire.
Using Capital Market's proprietary software ("Capital Line"), Rachh learned to deeply scan annual reports. He soon started his own research and advisory firm, Nicon Research, famously securing Rakesh Jhunjhunwala as an early client. After the tragic passing of his business partner, he transitioned through roles at Hinduja Finance—where he learned the rare art of index market timing from his boss—and MK Stock Brokers, where he built a specialization in mid and small-cap research before eventually joining Reliance Mutual Fund in 2007.
Rachh joined Reliance Mutual Fund (now Nippon India) right at the peak of the 2003-2008 bull market. Following the 2008 crash, the house launched a dedicated Small Cap Fund in 2010, initially garnering just ~380 Crores. The subsequent years (2010-2013) were brutal due to the European debt crisis and India's current account deficit. The fund's NAV collapsed to 7 rupees [00:10:51](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82C7jmcSnuM&t=10m51s). However, this prolonged bear market allowed Rachh to quietly accumulate massive positions in stellar businesses at highly depressed valuations, which subsequently catapulted the fund's returns when the cycle turned.
Rachh points out that the small-cap landscape has matured dramatically over 20 years. Today, SEBI strictly defines small caps (companies ranked 251st and below by market cap). This leaves a highly investable universe of 500 to 600 good companies ranging between 4,000 Cr to 30,000 Cr in market cap. Furthermore, a generational shift has occurred: modern promoters are globally educated, respect minority shareholders, and recognize that market cap is their most valuable currency.
Small-cap investing is purely bottom-up; macro indexing does not work. Because liquidity is scarce, finding a good company doesn't mean you can immediately buy its shares. Rachh states that small-cap fund managers are "beggars, not choosers" [00:20:14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82C7jmcSnuM&t=20m14s). He cites a chemical company his team monitored for four years; they only managed to buy a substantial block when the stock collapsed from 130 to 80 rupees on the exact day of Demonetization. Agility during market panics is the true driver of entry-price alpha.
Rachh runs a highly diversified portfolio (often 200+ stocks) and strongly argues against over-concentration in small caps. To earn a 50x multi-bagger return, an investor must hold the stock for a decade, surviving several 50% drawdowns along the way. If a stock is a 5% position and falls by half, it shaves 250 basis points off the entire fund, creating immense pressure to panic-sell. By keeping individual positions around 1.5%, the fund can comfortably ride out severe interim volatility, allowing winners to compound fully over time.
Mistakes are unavoidable. Rachh shares stories of a closed-ended fund falling to a 4 rupee NAV and telecom holdings dropping 90% due to delayed government orders. The key is to reassess whether the core thesis is permanently broken. Today, since corporate promoters are heavily trained on what to say to institutional investors, Rachh bypasses them by conducting rigorous channel checks with unlisted competitors. Unlisted rivals have no stock price to defend and will speak truthfully about industry headwinds.
Scaling from 500 Crores to a 68,000 Crore AUM introduces severe mathematical hurdles. To allocate just 1% of the fund to a new idea, Rachh must buy 680 Crores of a highly illiquid small-cap stock. Therefore, Rachh advises retail investors to diversify their capital across 3 to 4 different small-cap funds rather than giving it all to one manager. Furthermore, current valuations are uncomfortably high; Rachh urges investors to temper their expectations, cap small-cap allocations at 15-18%, and brace themselves mentally for the next inevitable 30-50% index correction.
6. Data & Figures
Data Point
Value
Context
Timestamp
Small Cap Fund Launch AUM
~380-390 Cr
The total capital garnered when the fund launched in 2010.
The Uncle and Nariman Point [00:00:42](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82C7jmcSnuM&t=0m42s): Rachh's passion for markets was sparked as a boy when his uncle, a stockbroker, stayed with his family for 15 days and sent him to Nariman Point, instantly enamoring him with the financial district's energy.
Demonetization Day Capitalization [00:18:47](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82C7jmcSnuM&t=18m47s): Rachh's team studied a chemical company implementing a large project for four straight years without buying a single share due to high prices. On the day of Demonetization, the stock plummeted from 130 to 80 as someone faced a redemption margin call. Because the team had done years of homework, it took them just 10 seconds to approve the block purchase.
The Hinduja Boss's Market Timing [00:07:19](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82C7jmcSnuM&t=7m19s): While working at Hinduja Finance, Rachh had a boss who possessed a seemingly supernatural ability to time the index top and bottom—a rare skill that Rachh admits he has never seen replicated by anyone else in the industry.
"Head in the Game" [00:27:32](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82C7jmcSnuM&t=27m32s): During a rough patch managing a closed-ended fund that had fallen to a 4-rupee NAV, Rachh was working from home. His wife overheard a marketing call and invested her own money into the heavily drawn-down fund. Rachh joked that he had to fix the fund's performance because he had to "report to his wife at home" every night.
The Logistics Policy Shift [00:32:48](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82C7jmcSnuM&t=32m48s): The fund invested in a logistics company whose entire competitive moat was a strategically located Container Freight Station (CFS) near a port. Suddenly, the government altered the policy to allow direct port delivery, rendering the company's prime real estate virtually useless overnight. This illustrated the unique macro/policy risks in small caps.
8. References & Recommendations
People:
Rakesh Jhunjhunwala - Late billionaire investor who was an early client of Rachh's independent research firm Nicon Research.
Sunil Singhania - Former CIO at Reliance Mutual Fund, mentored Rachh, noted for his unique ability to simultaneously scan annual reports, research notes, and excel sheets on multiple monitors.
Madhu Kela - Esteemed investor who originally recruited Rachh to Reliance Mutual Fund in 2007.
Krishna Palepu - Harvard Professor referenced by Rachh; taught a corporate course emphasizing that truly great companies create holistic value for shareholders, employees, and suppliers alike.
Tools/Platforms: * Capital Line - The early 1990s foundational stock screener software owned by Capital Market magazine, which laid the groundwork for modern tools like Screener.in.
Books/Media:
Bhagavad Gita - Rachh cites this spiritual text as a major psychological anchor. He correlates the ancient "Theory of Karma" directly to the behavior of long-term financial markets.
9. Speakers & Credentials
Anupam Gupta: Host of the Markets by Zerodha podcast series.
Samir Rachh: Fund Manager for Equity Investments at Nippon India Mutual Fund. Rachh has over 30 years of experience in Indian equity markets, transitioning from foundational research at Capital Market magazine to currently managing India's largest small-cap mutual fund with an AUM approaching 68,000 Crores.
10. Actionable Next Steps (Not an Investment Advice)
Stress-Test Your Portfolio Allocation: Review your equity portfolio immediately and ensure your small-cap exposure does not exceed the recommended 15-18% threshold unless you have an exceptionally high-risk tolerance.
Mentally Prepare for 50% Drawdowns: Write down your reaction plan for the next major market correction. Commit to holding your small-cap investments through a 50% NAV drop without panic selling, treating the capital as locked for 8-10 years.
Diversify Across Fund Managers: If you hold a significant amount in mutual funds, do not concentrate all your capital in one small-cap scheme. Distribute your small-cap allocation across 3-4 different asset management companies to blend their unique stock-picking styles and mitigate liquidity risks.
Conduct "Unlisted" Research: If you invest directly in individual stocks, do not rely solely on management commentary. Seek out news or speak to professionals in competing unlisted businesses to gauge the true headwinds facing the sector.
Cultivate Non-Market Anchors: Develop off-screen habits (like Rachh's use of Yoga and reading the Bhagavad Gita) to detach your daily psychological state from the volatility of the stock ticker, ensuring better rational decision-making during bear markets.
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Small Cap Market Cap Range
4,000 Cr - 30,000 Cr
The current monetary threshold defining the small-cap space in India.